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Post by katutui on Jul 21, 2008 13:32:14 GMT -5
Rob dared us so here it is.
1. Gary Brown: Gary Brown was way overrated, the only reason he was "on top" for so long was because (even though he denies it) Justin Goldman handled him. His promos were basically Bret Hart rip off promos, and his work ethic left a lot to be desired, he would disappear for several months then suddenly return to a title situation, I had no respect nor did I even like Justin/Gary/Goldman/Brown.
2. Heartbreak Meyers: Thats right I think HBM was overrated, half the time he was in EEWF he just whined about why he was not the champion, he complained when he didn't win even if his opponent out rped him. He may be the top 5 of a lot of people but to me he was just another whiny kid. Maybe he changed after EEWF, maybe not, all I know is I couldn't stand him.
3. The PIMP Clan, minus Scotty Sparks, Barry Sparks and Busta Byrd (so basically everyone else like Clank Fu, Ice Cold, etc etc etc) Pimp Clan was the most overrated stable, while they made awesome angles and could work their way into the main event anywhere at anytime, only Busta and Scotty and Barry really were good roleplayers, the pimp clan itself was just an assortment of guys who didn't roleplay or really had no clue how to roleplay well, and 3 guys who could REALLY roleplay. To me, I felt the Pimp Clan got a lot of attention because Barry and Busta mostly put them on top.
4. Hamid Isamali: now wait, as a roleplayer, I thought he was overrated because I really did not see him as a main event type of guy, his roleplays were always hard to read (like Marcus T roleplays) because of his grammar, Hamid's wrestling persona was over the top and not really that great. Now as a fed head, he was awesome.
5. Jimmy and Alex Luciano: The Luciano brothers were the most annoying thing to happen to E Wrestling, long ass roleplays about nothing (like a long drawn out Seinfield episode) constant OOC bickering, countless whiny rants about why they should be champion or why they should have won their match, they were way overrated. Luci ran a fed I was in for a while then with no explanation shut it down and never returned e mails about other guys wanting to take over the fed.
Happy now Rob? Now lets see if anyone else has balls.
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Post by Kingpin on Jul 21, 2008 17:35:30 GMT -5
1. Jade Diamond- I like jade as a wrestler, I like Jade as a person, but I always knew I could beat him hands down in a head to head match. (And I did three times) Much Like Myers he could dissapear for long stints and just show up into a title situation. I liked his RP's but I thought he got over with too little too often.
2. Deke Carter- He came in strong and went out with a wimper. I always wanted him to hang around and prove himself. He was smart I'll give him that.
3. Ben Gebhart- He would pay his dues but once he got beat for a title he evaporated. It was so bad we named the ditch after him. If he had stayed around he would have been on the other list.
4. HBM- See above (Insert every other fed I was in with him)
5. The Final Evolution of the WWC minus Dragzilla and Kersh- I have deep reservations about the final round of the WWC. There were a few guys who carried the round but I think a lot of legit Rp'ers became a victim of the friendly face. I and others RP'ed their ass off only to see what I thought was lesser lazier people slip through.
Honorable Mention
JD Lawson- I just couldn't get into his RP's and never saw what others saw
Undertow- He makes Kersh look like an action flick
Kingpin- (Serously) I always feel I get more looks than I diserve. I want to do better and that causes me to loose sometimes. I need to work harder. The way I see it I am my biggest critic
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Post by Marcus T on Jul 21, 2008 19:36:51 GMT -5
1. HBM - Without the ooc heat he had no material.
2. Gravestone - He ran over the likes of Sparrow and Maple Leaf and Sheep Mangler in EEWF to a point he did not have to work as hard in the FWF to get where he got.
3. Marcus T (really) - Just a character trying to fit in where he could get in. Never wanted to act right a lot of times and step out of line when there was no real need, could never take critisim until he got older and learn the world is not against him.
4. Sheep mangler - The name speaks for itself but, his antics he pulled off where to much like HBM.
5. WWC '07 - It was more about who you knew than about good role plays. All who won role played the exact same way and they carry a certain arrogance on the ooc board... how the fuck can you be hot shit when you write short stories that add up to imaginary titles? When you can make a good living off of it then come talk to me.
Honorable Mentions:
See Katuis entire top five and they are my honorable mentions. It's sad me and Katui, and Patrick have been around this long to do this shit in depth.
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Post by The Wizard of Ahhhhs on Jul 21, 2008 22:55:02 GMT -5
1. BRS - Running an angle only makes up a part of the equation when it comes to being a top star. BRS lived off his name for a long time in FWF and I never really saw much in his roleplays.
2. Nathaniel Rezno Glore (NRG) - This guy got his start in a federation that I ran some time ago. His roleplays were long as hell with constant filler BS rabble that I continue to see in peoples work. When I read that junk, all I think to myself is.. what the hell does this have to do with wrestling or their character at all? Having a good gimmick only takes you so far. Making a stable of 7 characters that you all handle yourself doesn't really mean much to me either. Have a little trust and make a stable out of other fedders youre with.
3. Gary Brown - for the reasons stated above. I'd push myself if I ran the place too.
4. Jimmy Luciano - This guy thought he was the best ever, yet he was far from it. He tried his hand at story telling too and it was pathetic at best. He tried to smack talk, but only busted out with one good line per roleplay. Toss in the constant OOC problems and online posse that follows him around and you have a mess. Toss in him trying to be a fedhead and the problem is listed above. He ran numerous feds.. would slap together a smooth looking page and start things off rocking. Two months later, just up and POOF. Gone. No explanation other than,, well duh, I have a life. Listen.. you want to be a fedhead? Make sure you have the time to see it through. Get a staff to help you out. Simplify the equation... or in his case.. dumb it down.
5. Justin Sane - Everyone who worked hard for their character made a name for themselves. Thats why they get brought up in posts like these. Just being around a place for a long time sometimes gives people a name, despite a serious lack of talent. This guy... sucked.
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Post by Tomas Luger on Jul 22, 2008 2:06:56 GMT -5
I'll try my TWF version for overrated
5. Zanthur-I liked his work, when he was around. He was a real good chaser, meaning he could chase a title better than anyone. He was a piss poor champion, as he never knew how to write like the best wrestler in the fed when he was supposed to be. I loved his work, but he was a terrible champ and for that he makes this list. When you're building characters to be champions and you are a lousy champion then haven't you failed?
4. Executioner-This isn't a slight at Gord, whom I know handled the character (Mostly because Barry Savage is legit), but a knock on the character. his first three RP's made me want to feud with him because he seemed like a solid, well thought out, well put together character. He soon became an echo of former RP's and started to get stale real quick. Then he won titles and cemented his status as legit. I'll never know what others saw in the character.
3. Chris F-B-I dislike his opinions and attitude, as he's pretty much my polar opposite. I never thought Rackie was anything to write home about, though Chris does have one of the sharpest wits I've ever seen. This has more to do with OOC things than anything else.
2. Adam Young-His RPs are short and sloppy and he brags about winning way more than he actually does. I don't like his OOC crap that just becomes a head ache over time. I'm sure this little blurb is contributary, and I'm sorry for that, but this list just wouldn't be complete unless I threw this name out there. And I know Rob Blondie is too polite to do so, so I will...
1. Tomas Luger-He is the ultimate sponge character, as I've successfully ripped off almost every handler I've come in contact with. I suspect that's why most people seems to regard my other character in a much higher esteem, as he was at least original. To be fair, I've probably ripped off something from everyone on this list, and I mean everyone.
These aren't meant to be dicked out comments to piss anyone off. These are just my opions
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Post by gwp on Jul 22, 2008 7:28:22 GMT -5
I agree with you 100% .. Executioner was VERY stale ... but I gave the guys what the wanted .. same old week after week .. consistency .. that is all I had with him I think was consistency .. easy to write the same thing week after week lol
Most over rated no particular order
NBK ... total rip off of Chris Jericho right down to his sidekick NO originality at all .. but was a major world title holder in the TWF
Justin Goldman ... I am not getting into the reasoning not enough room on the boards
BRS ... attention whore ... helped me alot but in the end attention whore ...
HBM .. do not know what anyone saw in him to get him where he was .. squeaky wheel gets the grease ..
will update this later .... head hurting .. not sleeping much ..
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Post by Rob Blondie on Jul 22, 2008 7:40:28 GMT -5
To be honest, I didn't expect anyone to actually go out on a limb and stir the, as John Cena would say, poopy storm.
5. Sterling Silver (original version) - Here's how I would write this Goldust rip off...say somethinggggg...thennnn....addddd.....theeeee....dotssssss........It had to be the most annoying thing to read in the history of RPing next to...ok, not going to shoot here, but some of you know where I was going.
4. Golden King - He was considered the man when I came into the TWF in 98. When I read his work, I was shocked how bad it was. It reminded me of Ultimate Warriors promos circa 1990..only really bad. I don't know who handled the character and it might have been someone I respected later, but this was just bad to me.
3. Jade Diamond - He was good...better than many, but not spectacular as he was pushed. Perhaps I would have seen more in him if he had stuck around enough to finish the angles he helped start, I don't know. I like Travis, but it's like seeing 3/4's a great movie and then never, ever getting to see the ending.
2. BRS- Another one I heard big things about when I first came on the scene, I heard the hype. I read the roleplays and...didn't see it. To me, they were just boring and unimaginative. Maybe I missed his brilliant
1. Jacklefan- I know that will get me heat with 99% of the people who read his work. I'm not saying it was bad. I just never felt his stuff was as good as everyone liked to say. He's looked at by many as a Michael Jordon when I see him more of a Charles Barkley. (yes, NBA comparisons from somone who doesnt like basketball).
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Post by Marcus T on Jul 22, 2008 15:40:04 GMT -5
my thing that I have with BRS is due to thim taking time out to help me. He did not have to, but he did, and this came at a time where he was public enemy number one in FWF. He help me in a time where everyone was for themselves, so to take time out to help a jobber such as myself grow into this game, it meant a lot and that i why I think so highly of him.
I know Katui has a axe to grind with the man, but that his their problem, katui has every right just like you, not to like him. I just appreciate the good look out.
Now the person who name I'm surprise who did not come up at all in these conversations is Dave Dexter.
For all the chaos he was apart of, it is as if no one has an opinion on the guy. A lot of the times I thought he was over rated mosty due to his rappid success in the FWF. And like Katui to BRS, I had a axe to grind with the guy on so many levels. I will give him credit for beating a guy i hated more than him... Gravestone.
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Post by The Wizard of Ahhhhs on Jul 22, 2008 17:40:12 GMT -5
No one has a negative opinion of Dave Dexter's work because he was outstanding. His roleplays were above and beyond talented. His angles were great. He took the FWF, the juggernaut that it was and took it to places it would have never been without him. This was a guy that only the extremely talented could go rp for rp with. You couldn't get into a smack talk war with him because he'd tear you in half. Top it all off with him being a great guy and those are plenty enough reasons for him to not be on this list or even be considered for it. Trust me, he earned everything he ever had.
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Post by Marcus T on Jul 22, 2008 18:36:31 GMT -5
errr... ummm... yea.
What I meant is why is he not on any of the list: Underated, underated, top five. As I stated, he was a potent figure in the efedding. Why is everyone avoiding the name?
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Post by Kingpin on Jul 22, 2008 19:16:34 GMT -5
Most people think highly of the guy. It's kinda like Terry Dane you just can't hate the guy. Although I am surley indiffrent
Wizzard, you have to realize also that some of us here come from the TWF school of wrestling and don't have the same reverance for FWF guy's you do. Last time we saw most of them they were fighting and acting a fool. We for the most part never got to see the evloution of some of the people that you hold in high esteem. The bulk of the TWF swore off conflict OOC and cheap heat in lew of PG 13, thinly vield backhanded compliments and Tennessee glory.
I can see where both of you are coming from
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Post by The Wizard of Ahhhhs on Jul 23, 2008 0:44:08 GMT -5
I only took his post for face value, since it was in this thread alone.
I hold what you all did in TWF with high respect then, despite not seeing or being apart of it at all. I never liked the OOC bickering at all and don't really see the point in flexing "e-muscle". It's like coming in first in the special olympics. Doesn't really matter if you win, you're still retarded.
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Post by Da Fil speaking for JJJ on Jul 24, 2008 6:22:06 GMT -5
Anyone who wants to really see what an rp war, a true war with Dave Dexter is like just look at the entire Triple J Dave Dexter feud. As I mentioned in another thread in a WWC they tore down the house scoring 300-299 and even that was a split decision. Anyone who was around to see this feud knows its the stuff of legends, hey I might be related to one, but if you dont believe me ask someone else who was. I seriously doubt anyone will argue that Dave Dexter was an amazing rper by any standard.
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