Comment and question

[donhaney]

The site looks great Patrick. Looks like you have done your homework pretty well and it has the feel of a real federation. Thanks for the invite. I am going to look around a bit here. Hello Aaron C... nice to see your typing again.. lol

What is the competitive setup going to be? Basic roleplaying? Certain number required? Anything new and invigorating? Just wondering?

Thanks again...

Don J

[TWD Relations]

Hey Don . . . look around as much as you like. And HEY . . . just so you know, there's no rules round here about Don Haney suiting up as a handler. Hint Hint! At any rate . . .

Good questions. Allow me to spill my guts. "Basically", there are three points/objectives that are going to carry the "TWD".

1.) It can be debated that e-wrestling has gone from a simplistic form of online recreation to a highly competitive activity that in order to excel/succeed/ultimately have fun one has to have a considerable amount of time and yes even perseverance. I want to revert to the simplistic form. I want e-wrestling to be a hobby again and not something that takes up every night of every day. I want people to have fun *gasp* role playing again because it's not something they're doing day in and day out. So in correlation with one of your questions, the requirements are fairly simple to understand. One role play a week. That's the minimum. That's the maximum. Though I am asking that we use the term "minimum" very BOLDLY. I think e-fed success is based largely on participation from its handlers. The major form of handler participation is obviously role playing. Here's a hint . . . don't think you have to post pages and pages of words either. Give me a scene. Give me some dialog. Give me SOMETHING, just give it to me the way your character would.

2.) Anything new and invigorating? MMmm, I wouldn't say that. But I think I have something decent up my sleeve. In my experience, e-wrestling success is built within the win/loss column and ultimately the number of championships you own. Not here. I come from a role playing game background (Dungeons&Dragons, Star Wars, etc.), it's what actually led me to e-wrestling. Sure I watched wrestling in the 80's, 90's and early 00's, but I haven't watched steadily in years. It's about the game. So instead of focusing on wins/losses, I want my handlers to focus on controlling their character. How do they react being in certain situations? Winning streaks? Losing streaks? Being humiliated? Being congratulated? That's where I'm going to be looking out for my "winners". In addition, I plan to overload TWD with columns, updated news and rumors, (there's an audio show in the works), and more little things like that that hopefully will make participating all that more fun.

3.) As far as the competitive setup . . . I've already been brainstorming about how to give each guy "his". It's going to be tough, but my plan is to reward for participation. That's the game. Someone mentioned the possibilities of egos clashing . . . sure. It's going to happen. People are going to lose. I guess if they can't handle it, they will leave. But I'm hoping the majority will have more fun being a part of TWD as opposed to being successful. All in all, I've been to the circus before. I know the feeling of a loss when victory was a certainty. And when I make a decision related to such, I'll remember. I'll remember and somewhere, sometime down the road . . . I'll give back. So competition? Mmmm . . . only In Character really. Afterall, this really is sports entertainment.

Couple side notes Don . . . I'm holding bi-weekly shows and only four pay per views a year. All cards are going to have a minimum number of matches (4 or 5). The idea is to create a certain amount of excitement for being in a match on a card and even a higher level for making a pay per view event.

In addition, I'm hoping to create some sort of Hall of Fame to mention the feds of the old fed family (TWF, FWF, IWA, etc.) because I'm big on the past.

That's pretty much all I have buddy. Nice to see you around. Remember the invite brotha.

[Kingpin]

In addition, I'm hoping to create some sort of Hall of Fame to mention the feds of the old fed family (TWF, FWF, IWA, etc.) because I'm big on the past.





WOW!!!!!

Good luck getting to the bottom of that. I am being 100 percent real in saying that there is some BADDDD blood. I don't know if you noticed it but the IW and the TWF familes don't get along all that well. We seem to have a principal disagreement on how the game is played. Granted there is the few of us here who are adults now and can move foward past petty beefs.

BUT

As shown at the WWC/BKI there are still people who believe the Judges from either respictive branch is clearly biased. Example: the TWF side people look at Dustin Iler's rp's are simple but legendary. IW guys don't see it in the same light They prefer a more detailed Joesph Mason'esque story. I can see where both are great RP'ers.

Just look at the diffrences between the judgeing of GW perry and Jimmy L

My question is how would you rate that in a hall of fame? You would have to seperate the inductees by the feds

I am also attempting to preserve the DCW/TWF days of the past two years and would like to write another installment of the Herritage awards. If I could I would like to include the IW side of the tree.

Cause the truth is we all came from the greatest fed to have ever been the IWA some might be carrying on the branches of their side of the tree but we all come from that fed. (IE: I claim TWF but have never met or spoke to Don J)

[omegaacb]

First, great to see you out and about Don. It's been a long time. You should lace on the boots and give it another go. I always liked working with you no matter what your capacity in the fed was.
Second Kingpin, awesome idea for the heritage awards. I don't know if I can be any assistance with that, but if you can think of anything let me know, and I'll try my best.
My past with BTW and TWF I always look for ways to read the old stuff. Takes me back to a day when I was doing this every day/night and having fun. Besides it helps me remember the past of AC and use that to rekindle memories in other people and their characters.

[TWD Relations]

I guess by using the word "Hall of Fame" I'm in error. I was thinking more on the lines of a memorial. Just something to mention . . . hey, this is where we've been. But I would have no problem adding stuff like the Heritage Awards (which I think were one of the greatest features of the history of e-wrestling) as well as testimonials and what not.

In all honesty, I don't know much about the IWA. I never spent much time there when it was around and I was never a role player. As a matter of fact, by the time my first run in the FWF was over I never seen IWA again. But I still recognize them as a pillar of our "community".

In light of your biased comments, I think that exists regardless of reputation or history. Personally, I think my FWF style trumps all of you. =) Not really. But you see what I'm saying. It's a healthy debate. I hope to one day have the same trouble again, but within the halls of TWD. And to note . . . I think both Dustin Iler and Joseph Mason are great characters and great handlers.

Gord and Jimmy Lu definitely have a different judging strategy. But to each is his own.

I'm puzzled as to your IWA family tree theory. Not for sure what you mean. My first role play was done as "The Enforcer" in the Fans Wrestling Federation. That's where I began. And even though disagreements on philosophy has displaced me . . . I still claim to be FWF. As a matter of fact, I tried my best to get permission to have it reopened, but to no avail. Oh well . . . LONG LIVE TWD!

[Kingpin]

Let's see the IWA tree I will try to give the short version


The Base
The IWA is started. Soon it rose to be the most dominant fed


The Split
Many of the founders of various feds either looked to or came from the IWA. The structure of the fed was copied in varous forms with varying rules. IE: The TWF, BTW, FWF

The Family
Members of the IWA reach out to friends and contacts to form a loose allience of E-Feds

The WWC
Almost like clockwork everyone wanted to see who was better (person and fed). It started out heavely ruled and judged. There was a bracket one on one style and every round/match was written out in full wrestling format. By the WWC 2 it was a free for all.

The Permenant split
Feds became disillusioned with the orginization of the fed family. Also more and more feds closed and merged. See: BTW, TWF, DCW, NEW. As a result feds quit talking to each other. The Beef simmered and everybody went to their own corner of the web. As a result new talent was added. People began to "carry on" the names of the "OG" feds they were a part of. The RP, judging, standard, and fed setup was carried to the next fed they were a part of. The new talent littarly learned to RP and run a fed from the" old timers.


Forgotten
In My corner of the web we almost wrote off alot of the other branch as not RP'ing or no longer active. It was looked upon as the gloden age of e feding. Little did we know Brent Kersh would show up from the DEAD to invite the "new" TWF to compete in the latest incarnation of the WWC and BKI

TWD
Here we are


That is the best quick tree I can come up with. I am definitely sure it is much more complicated but I am too lazy to interview everyone of the people involved. I do hope this makes it a little clearer. Marcus knows more as he was there in the IWA before it was an E-fed and they used to send in rp's via e-mail

[TWD Relations]

I'll buy it. I didn't really know IWA was the "founder" of it all. Kinda makes me feel good about this whole TWD thing. Yup . . . good indeed.

Hey, I'm all for egos and arrogance destroying our new fed family. We just have to be good enough to build it first. =)

[katutui]

hahaha I remember e mail roleplaying, those were the days.


And some of you may or may not know, I've been around for many years, Katu the character is just a new guy I created for the heck of it.

[donhaney]

I founded the TWF in early 1998. I can unequivocally deny that I copied anything from the IWA because at the beginning, I had never heard of it. Our fed came from a long forgetten one called the DWF (Dynasty Wrestling Federation) from whom I recruited Dr. Midnight, Ric Justus, Lobo and Odin, Panther, Merlin... Never did I copy anything from the IWA.

Now with that said, the TWF would have never become the late 90's juggernaut that it was if it had not been for the IWA. I became a handler there during the mid 1998 era while still running TWF. I was able to entice Jackylfan and HST Gonzo, (The Think Tank) into the TWF and Jackylfan would later win a WWC championship which gave instant credability to us as a big time fed. Then I got Heartbreak Meyers and Destructo and we pretty much matched the FWF as the big boy. So without my participation in the IWA, which I still hold in the absolute highest regard, we would have never gotten to where we did.

I pretty much ran the TWF for about 5 years, with the occasional hiatus where Gord/Chris F-B/Brian Black would come in and run the place and then I bowed out. It was my baby for a long time and I can give you all the history you want for the first 5 years.

By the way, my inspiration for the TWF actually came from those wrestling feds we used to play by mail... HA

[Kingpin]

May 22, 2008 14:10:51 GMT -5 @donhaney said:

I founded the TWF in early 1998. I can unequivocally deny that I copied anything from the IWA because at the beginning, I had never heard of it. Our fed came from a long forgetten one called the DWF (Dynasty Wrestling Federation) from whom I recruited Dr. Midnight, Ric Justus, Lobo and Odin, Panther, Merlin... Never did I copy anything from the IWA.

Now with that said, the TWF would have never become the late 90's juggernaut that it was if it had not been for the IWA. I became a handler there during the mid 1998 era while still running TWF. I was able to entice Jackylfan and HST Gonzo, (The Think Tank) into the TWF and Jackylfan would later win a WWC championship which gave instant credability to us as a big time fed. Then I got Heartbreak Meyers and Destructo and we pretty much matched the FWF as the big boy. So without my participation in the IWA, which I still hold in the absolute highest regard, we would have never gotten to where we did.

I pretty much ran the TWF for about 5 years, with the occasional hiatus where Gord/Chris F-B/Brian Black would come in and run the place and then I bowed out. It was my baby for a long time and I can give you all the history you want for the first 5 years.

By the way, my inspiration for the TWF actually came from those wrestling feds we used to play by mail... HA

There you have it from daddy TWF himself. It sounds like I need to interview you.

As for me I started in the IWA. I later broke from it to go on a trip for six months. When I got back their had been a new fed started that seemed like more fun It was called the BTW. The BTW is where my old wrestler was groomed. Later I formed him into Kingpin and the rest is history.

Oh! before I forget

Don J you don't have a problem with me writeing a seccond installment of the Herritage awards? TWF/DCW style

[donhaney]

Don't mind a bit.