Rob Blondie
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Post by Rob Blondie on Mar 2, 2009 15:05:07 GMT -5
This my unofficial official first blog...as you can see, it will be called Rob Blondie Gives You Hell. My first blog has nothing to do with e-fedding, but I suspect that will be rare. My rant is a bout this story... news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090301/ap_on_re_us/military_momNow, I have always been very pro-military. I had intended to join when I was young, but at the time I would have (ie 18 /19) I was going through chemo and radiation, so not the best time to join. By the time I was cleared, life lead me elsewhere. I have always believed you sign on for your time. You DO your time. I lost a huge amount of respect for Randy Orton when I heard he was discharged dishonorably. I also have no respect for those who deserted for Canada during the Gulf Wars. I am fine with disagreeing with the choice of going into Iraq, but, again, you sign up and you do your time. Having said all that, I have a MAJOR issue with the Military recalling those who have done their time....like the mother int eh story above. She's been out for FOUR years. She wasn't just coming up at the end of her tour (though, I have a problem with extending tours as well). She moved on. She is no longer a soldier, she is a mother. She is a house wife. Even if she was a single man who has no kids...she was discharged Four FUCKING years ago!!!!! I see that like CIGNA, who I haven't worked for in 3 years, calling me this afternoon and telling me I have to come back and work for them or I will go to jail. I realize the military is different, but....FOUR FUCKING YEARS!!! Why are they doing it? Because everyone is tired of war. They are tired in particular of dealing with a country whom we freed and still can;t get their act together. Yes, we've been in Germany since WW2...but we don't patrol the streets, nor do we have roadside bombs on the autobahn. Younger people see whats going on there and they don't want to be apart of it...so the military is desperate. The brass are being, in my view, underhanded and pathetic. They should have taken one look at this woman's case and given her the exception. Instead, they look like...and really...douchebags. So, for that, I decided to Give them Hell.
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Post by Kingpin on Mar 2, 2009 15:47:27 GMT -5
As a former combat vetran i have to say she knew the score. EVERY army cotract is eight years. Recalling her at the end though is fucked up
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Post by Eno Redrum on Mar 2, 2009 17:02:13 GMT -5
Try being in my boat. Without going into great detail, I did 5 years in the service and was giving the opportunity to either go to the Naval Academy or get out. I had been shot already in combat and did not want to give another 12 years of my life to the military so I opted to get out.
I was on recall status for the next three years. the third year I was called back when they thought the war was going to start up again. That cost me being put on recall status again for an additional five years. I got recalled again and that extended it even further.
To make a long story short, I have been on recall for the past 15 years and have been back to the point of shipping out three times, but never shipped out. My recall status will officially end this August when I fulfill 20 years of active and recall status. So until then, I could still be recalled. It has cost me two very good jobs because I was on standby mode for two months and the company had to move on. I could have started all over at the bottom of the barrel (yes, the company screwed me I know), but that just wasn't worth it.
In hindsight, I should have just taken the shot at the Academy and devoted 20 years of my life to them while getting paid and getting a top notch education (and playing collegiate basketball). Sucks, but it is part of the small print BS you never pay attention to and that they never point out to you.
NAVY = Never Again Volunteer Yourself
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Post by kurtstone on Mar 2, 2009 17:19:46 GMT -5
Try being in my boat. Without going into great detail, I did 5 years in the service and was giving the opportunity to either go to the Naval Academy or get out. I had been shot already in combat and did not want to give another 12 years of my life to the military so I opted to get out. I was on recall status for the next three years. the third year I was called back when they thought the war was going to start up again. That cost me being put on recall status again for an additional five years. I got recalled again and that extended it even further. To make a long story short, I have been on recall for the past 15 years and have been back to the point of shipping out three times, but never shipped out. My recall status will officially end this August when I fulfill 20 years of active and recall status. So until then, I could still be recalled. It has cost me two very good jobs because I was on standby mode for two months and the company had to move on. I could have started all over at the bottom of the barrel (yes, the company screwed me I know), but that just wasn't worth it. In hindsight, I should have just taken the shot at the Academy and devoted 20 years of my life to them while getting paid and getting a top notch education (and playing collegiate basketball). Sucks, but it is part of the small print BS you never pay attention to and that they never point out to you. NAVY = Never Again Volunteer Yourself Ain't that the truth.
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Post by Marcus T on Mar 3, 2009 20:35:02 GMT -5
As fucked as this may be, it is apart of the contract.
She knew what she was getting herself into when she signed it. It is sort of like those rock bands who sign some bull shit contract cause they where hard up for money. Once things go right and they start paying attention it is too late.
I will not take sides on this cause the contract is what it is.
She is not getting what she deserves, she is getting what she NEGOTIATED! If she was unable to negotiate the deal, why sign it?
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Post by kurtstone on Mar 3, 2009 20:42:14 GMT -5
Doesn't matter anyway. They're releasing her from her contract. She'll be getting a general discharge under honorable conditions. Good to go.
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Post by Marcus T on Mar 3, 2009 20:50:38 GMT -5
Would she still be getting all her benefits?
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Post by kurtstone on Mar 3, 2009 20:55:27 GMT -5
I believe so. As long as she's not dishonorably discharged, she should be good to go.
I don't understand how she said there is nobody that could take care of her kids though. No family? Her husband doesn't have a family either? Like WTF?
I'm thinking it was all a ploy so that they would discharge her. Ah well. Women shouldn't be in the military anyway. Good riddance.
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Post by Marcus T on Mar 3, 2009 21:18:41 GMT -5
Not so fast..
let women in the military, don't let one rotten apple ruin it for millions more. it is a shit excuse that's for sure, but let's face it... she probably had hired some P.R asshole to help her look even more sorrier than what her sorry ass is.
The military don't want a shit bag in the fields PRETENDING to have the back of her conrads of her company, when her mind is else where.
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Post by Kingpin on Mar 3, 2009 21:46:16 GMT -5
Thats actually a common reason to get out for women
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Post by kurtstone on Mar 3, 2009 22:22:57 GMT -5
Not so fast.. let women in the military, don't let one rotten apple ruin it for millions more. it is a shit excuse that's for sure, but let's face it... she probably had hired some P.R asshole to help her look even more sorrier than what her sorry ass is. The military don't want a shit bag in the fields PRETENDING to have the back of her conrads of her company, when her mind is else where. Women generally don't belong in the military. Do you know how many men have been fucked out of an assignment or TO an assignment because the woman that was suppose to go to that assignment got pregnant or incurred some type of other "woman problem" at the "last possible minute" ?
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Post by Marcus T on Mar 4, 2009 1:04:41 GMT -5
Well... in that case sure... but would it still be possible to allow them to still be nurses in the very least? I'm sure we could find them adequate jobs with in the military instead of simply excluding them all together. My thing I don't like letting good help going to waste, unless it is simply useless. (Right here is where I would insult some one, moe than likely kevin, but... nah)
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Post by Kingpin on Mar 4, 2009 11:09:55 GMT -5
Most gi's including me don't like women in the millitary
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Post by kurtstone on Mar 4, 2009 14:37:55 GMT -5
Most gi's including me don't like women in the millitary Hua.
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Post by Eno Redrum on Mar 4, 2009 15:38:03 GMT -5
Women bitched and moaned to get treated like men for decades. Then when they get the same type of jobs, like the military, they fall back on being a woman and it puts the military at a disadvantage and causes men to have to pick up the slack.
I have no problem with women serving in the military, but they need to be as support staff personelle. They could have sent her to a US base or a base abroad and provided her with housing a daycare and made her a secretary or clerk or something and none of this would have been a problem. It is when they started allowing them to serve at the side of those in combat zones that we started having these issues and women started falling back on the whole "I'm a woman thing."
This also effects the men with the whole "mother syndrome," which causes more problems not to mention the rise in sexual assault cases that have stemmed from women being in combat zones.
I have no issues with women working and pulling their fair share or a workload and getting equal pay, but not in the military. It just weakens us and it also gives the impression that the U.S. can't handle their business and I think we can all agree that is a bunch of B.S.
I feel a Rob Part II blog on this or one from me this weekend.
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