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Post by Tommy "Southpaw" O'Malley on Jun 18, 2008 15:38:59 GMT -5
Garnett is still under-rated.
Unbelievable.
If he wins this year, he still won't ge tthe love. he's the glue that makes the celtics work.
You can't tell me that elton brand plays better D or is better all-around than Garnett.
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Post by Eno Redrum on Jun 18, 2008 16:38:13 GMT -5
Tommy, like I said, I went with personal preference. Also, I still see KG as more of a SF like Dirk. They both were over-sized SF when they came into the league. Don't get me wrong, I love KG, I just went with Elton Brand because I like his overall game as a PF more than I do KG at the PF.
Like I said, there are so many ways that you could go and in the end, someone is gonna get left off the list and people will question it. That's is the joy and pain of something like this.
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Post by Kingpin on Jun 18, 2008 17:17:04 GMT -5
Top Ten wrestlers of all time
10. Stone Cold
9. Rowdy Piper
8. Razor Ramon/Scott Hall (The NWO/outsider angle was priceless. True heels)
7. Diesel /Kevin Nash (The NWO/outsider angle was priceless. True heels)
6. Undertaker
5. Chris Jerico (pending if he screws it up)
4. Brett Hart
3. Jimmy Hart (Let's face it as a manager he was the unfiltered shit. I miss the time of a mouthy manager that you hated even though he never got his hands dirty. Besides you know you love the coats.)
2. The Rock (Best wrestler to walk into the WWE hands down. He needed no gimick and you got over just wrestling the guy. He was instant ratings and could make a five star match with Scotty too Hotty. Nuff said)
1. Buff Bagwell (if Tomas Luger was a real person he would be Buff.)
Basketball players
10. Pistol Pete
9. Magic
8. Dr. J
7. Wilt
6. Dennis Rodman
5. Larry Bird
4. Kreem Abdul Jabar
3. Hakim Olijajuan
2. Oscar Robertson
1. Bill Russell
Each one of these people changed the game. If you noticed there is no Jordan. He did not change the game for the better with his play. The only result fron Jordan was that you could shoot ALOT and still win. Besides the best Jordan was when he was younger. He once scored like 40 or 50 points in a playoff game against one of the people on this list. Jordan lost because he was trying to do too much himself and he ran into one of the great dynasties.
Larry bird in his prime was twice what Jordan was. I had the game.
Magic won championships with the lakers but his greatest acheviement came when he won the title playing CENTER and was the MVP. Jordan never did anything like that.
Bill Russell simply would do WHATEVER it took to win. Even if it ment boxing out his mother for a board. Jordan just cried for the foul.
Hakim changed center play in the NBA and did it all with Shaq on his back WHEN HE WAS THE MOST POWERFUL. He also won the game in the low post. Where has the low post gone?
Rodman made Defence a seprate show. He actually used to score a lot until the pistons asked him to stop scoreing and help on defence. The rest is history
Jordan just emphized the single player mentality. The "this is my time" thought process. The truth is Jordan looked so good because basketball got krapier. If he played against the greats on this list in their prime he would and did loose. He will be the first one to tell you that Magic was where he learned to win.
Nuff said
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Post by Eno Redrum on Jun 18, 2008 17:33:26 GMT -5
Buff Bagwell #1. LMAO! My brother went to high school with the guy and he was agreat guy to hang out with, never a dull moment. However, although Luger being him in real life is something that caught my interest, what was your reasoning behind him being #1 or you just going for shock value my friend? LoL!
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Post by Kingpin on Jun 18, 2008 17:36:10 GMT -5
you cant touch Buff Bagwell. He is the stuff
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Post by Tomas Luger on Jun 18, 2008 17:47:13 GMT -5
Luger's first finisher, if I'm not mistaken, was a rip-off of the blockbuster. Ray, you hit the nail on the head. Buff was part of Luger's "inspiration" if you will.
Hakeem should've made my list, but I really didn't know where to put him. He was pretty damned legit and no one dominated the low post on defense like "The Dream". I used to own his shoes, they were sick.
Also, honorable mention to Clyde Drexler. The dude would've won like 20 championships, but didn't really have the support except for like two-three years, but he played out west with Magic and the gang.
Top 10 wrestlers (I started watching the WWF the year Smackdown debuted, but have since followed up by watching/researching some classics).
10. Shane McMahon-His spots are always huge, he's better than you think. 9. Rowdy Roddy Piper-Ahead of his time. 8. Mankind-Who else does the things he does. Cheap pop included! 7. Goldberg-WCW answer to WWF's superstars. He pretty much ran the second tier. Sure he sucked in WWE, but he was the man in WCW 6. Undertaker-Don't need to explain his presence. 5. New Age Outlaws-Yeah, 2-for-1, but they are the best tag team ever. 4. Chris Jericho-I'm a mark for him, it's true. He was the first undisputed champion and can cut the best promos out of nothing. His jabs at Stephanie back in the day were classic and made me roll laughing. 3. HHH-The dude bleeds wrestling. Sure he got over by marrying the boss' daughter, but he works his ass off every match. 2. The Rock-See Ray's description. 1. Hulk Hogan-Say what you will about him, but he put the WWE on the map and pretty much paved the way for the last 20 years. Plus American Gladiators rocks with him as co-host.
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Post by Eno Redrum on Jun 18, 2008 18:16:32 GMT -5
Marcus and I had a conversation over the phone today about the Top 10 Lists and we tried doing just Top 10 Centersand got down to #10 and had to make it a tie between two people.
That is the great thing, and the worse thing, about these types of lists. Someone is gonna get left off and it all boils down to a personal bias. That is why I love to read things like this, but hate to give my two cents. LoL Catch 22 I guess.
I am gonna see if I can find the NBA All-Ugliest Team they came out with a couple of years ago. It was classic. The ugliest dudes to ever play the game. It was funny.
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